Earnings call transcript: Telos Corp Q1 2025 sees stock dip on earnings miss

Published 09-05-2025, 07:48 pm
Earnings call transcript: Telos Corp Q1 2025 sees stock dip on earnings miss

Telos Corp reported its Q1 2025 earnings, showing revenue growth but missing earnings expectations. The company’s earnings per share (EPS) came in below forecasts, prompting a nearly 12% drop in its stock price. According to InvestingPro analysis, Telos appears undervalued at current levels, though its Financial Health Score of 1.52 indicates weakness. Despite the revenue increase, the market’s reaction was negative due to the earnings miss.

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Key Takeaways

  • Telos Corp’s Q1 2025 revenue reached $30.6 million, a 16% sequential growth.
  • The company’s EPS missed forecasts, leading to an 11.84% drop in stock price.
  • Security Solutions segment showed strong growth, with an 18% increase in revenue.
  • Telos is expanding its TSA PreCheck enrollment network, aiming for 500 locations by year-end.
  • The company projects accelerated growth in H2 2025.

Company Performance

Telos Corp demonstrated a robust performance in Q1 2025, with total revenue reaching $30.6 million, marking a 16% growth from the previous quarter. This growth was driven by the Security Solutions segment, which saw an 18% increase in revenue. The company’s strategic focus on expanding its TSA PreCheck enrollment network and securing new contracts with government agencies contributed to this performance.

Financial Highlights

  • Revenue: $30.6 million, up 16% sequentially
  • Security Solutions revenue: $25.8 million, up 18% sequentially
  • Secure Networks revenue: $4.8 million, up 8% sequentially
  • GAAP gross margin: 39.8%
  • Cash gross margin: 45.3%
  • Adjusted EBITDA: $362,000 profit
  • Cash flow from operations: $6.1 million positive
  • Free cash flow: $3.8 million positive

Earnings vs. Forecast

Telos Corp’s EPS fell short of expectations, contributing to a negative market reaction. The company had revised its EPS forecast upwards four times in the last 90 days, but the actual EPS did not meet these elevated expectations. This miss contrasts with the company’s recent history of meeting or exceeding forecasts.

Market Reaction

Following the earnings release, Telos Corp’s stock price fell by 11.84%, closing at $2.45. The stock’s decline reflects investor disappointment with the earnings miss, despite the positive revenue growth. InvestingPro data reveals the stock has suffered a significant 47.42% decline over the past six months, with the current price closer to its 52-week low of $1.89, indicating a challenging market sentiment.

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Outlook & Guidance

Looking ahead, Telos Corp provided Q2 2025 revenue guidance in the range of $32.5 to $34.5 million, representing a 14-21% year-over-year growth. The company expects accelerated growth in revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and cash flow in the second half of 2025, driven by existing business and new programs like DMDC and DHS.

Executive Commentary

"We continue to make progress on the expansion of our TSA PreCheck enrollment network," said John Wood, CEO of Telos Corp. Mark Griffin, EVP of Security Solutions, emphasized the robustness of the business pipeline, stating, "The business pipeline still remains over $4 billion." These comments highlight the company’s strategic focus and growth potential.

Risks and Challenges

  • Earnings volatility: The recent EPS miss highlights potential fluctuations in earnings.
  • Market contraction: The renewal market is expected to contract in 2025, posing challenges to revenue growth.
  • Margin pressures: The DMDC program margins are expected to be dilutive, impacting overall profitability.
  • Cash margin decline: Cash gross margins are likely to decrease by approximately 600 basis points in H2 2025.
  • Economic conditions: Broader macroeconomic pressures could affect customer spending and contract renewals.

Q&A

During the earnings call, analysts inquired about the expected margins from the DMDC program, expressing concerns over potential dilutive effects. The company responded by acknowledging the margin pressures but emphasized the long-term growth prospects. Analysts also questioned the impact of the TSA PreCheck expansion on future revenue, to which the company responded positively, highlighting ongoing network growth and customer engagement.

Full transcript - Telos Corp (TLS) Q1 2025:

Conference Operator: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Telos Corporation First Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. After the speakers’ presentation, there will be a question and answer session.

I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Alison Phillip, Director of Corporate Communications.

Alison Phillip, Director of Corporate Communications, Telos Corporation: Good morning. Thank you for joining us to discuss Corporation’s first quarter twenty twenty five financial results. With me today is John Wood, Chairman and CEO of Telos, and Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO of Telos. Let me quickly review the format of today’s presentation. Mark will begin with remarks on our first quarter twenty twenty five results.

Next, John will discuss business highlights from the quarter. Then, Mark will follow-up with second quarter guidance before turning back to John to wrap up. We will then open the line for Q and A where Mark Griffin, Executive Vice President of Security Solutions, will also join us. The first quarter financial results were issued earlier today and are posted on the Telos Investor Relations website, where this call is being simultaneously webcast. Additionally, we have provided presentation slides on our Investor Relations website.

Before we begin, we want to emphasize that some of our statements on this call, including all of those relating to 2025 company performance, plans, and operations, are forward looking statements and are made under the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could materially differ for various reasons, including the factors described in today’s financial results summary, in the comments made during this conference call, and in our SEC filings. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward looking statements. In addition, during today’s call, we will discuss non GAAP financial measures, which we believe are useful as supplemental and clarifying measures to help investors understand TELUS’ financial performance.

These non GAAP financial measures should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for or in isolation from GAAP results. You can find additional disclosures regarding these non GAAP measures, including reconciliations with comparable GAAP results, in our first quarter results summary and on the Investor Relations portion of our website. Please also note that financial comparisons are year over year unless otherwise specified. The webcast replay of this call will be available on our company website under the Investor Relations link. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Mark.

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Thank you, Alison, and good morning, everyone. Let’s begin today on slide three. I’m pleased to report that TELUS has again over delivered on key financial metrics in the first quarter, exceeding both revenue and profit guidance. Overall, it was a straightforward quarter with better than guided performance across revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, and adjusted EBITDA. Total company revenue grew 16% sequentially to $30,600,000 and included growth from both security solutions and secure networks.

Security solutions grew 18% sequentially to $25,800,000 and Secure Networks grew 8% sequentially to $4,800,000 Security Solutions revenue exceeded guidance, partially due to outperformance on high growth programs. GAAP gross margin was 39.8% and cash gross margin was 45.3%, both exceeding guidance due to more favorable mix. Adjusted operating expenses, excluding depreciation and amortization, were approximately $800,000 better than guidance, primarily due to lower than forecasted non labor costs across multiple cost centers. As a result, adjusted EBITDA also exceeded the top end of our guidance range. Adjusted EBITDA was a $362,000 profit compared to our guidance range of a $1,800,000 loss to an $800,000 loss.

Lastly, cash flow from operations was a positive $6,100,000 and free cash flow was a positive $3,800,000. On our last earnings call, we said we were forecasting significant year over year improvements in revenue, profit and cash flow for the full year 2025. So let’s turn to slide four for a brief review of our year over year performance in the first quarter of the year. Revenue grew 3% year over year due to 39 growth in security solutions, partially offset by contraction in secure networks. Growth in security solutions was primarily driven by the successful transition of the Defense Manpower Data Center or DMDC program in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty four and the ramp of TSA PreCheck enrollment volume.

Secure Networks contracted due to the completion and ramp down of multiple programs over the past several quarters. GAAP gross margin expanded two seventy eight basis points and cash gross margin expanded three thirteen basis points, both primarily due to the favorable mix shift from secure networks to security solutions. Security solutions revenue increased from 63% of total company revenue in the first quarter of twenty twenty four to 84% of revenue in the first quarter of twenty twenty five. As a result of revenue growth and gross margin expansion, GAAP gross profit increased by 1,200,000 and cash gross profit increased by $1,400,000 Turning to operating expenses. During the third quarter of twenty twenty four, we implemented a restructuring and cost reduction plan in order to maximize our operating leverage as we return to growth in 2025.

In part as a result of that plan, adjusted operating expenses, excluding depreciation and amortization, declined by $1,300,000 year over year. Higher cash gross profit, combined with lower adjusted operating expenses, drove adjusted EBITDA higher by $2,700,000 And lastly, cash flow from operations increased by $6,500,000 and free cash flow increased by $7,400,000 due to higher adjusted EBITDA, lower capitalized software development costs and favorable working capital dynamics. Overall, we expect the trend of year over year growth in revenue, adjusted EBITDA and cash flow to accelerate in the second half of twenty twenty five. I will now turn it over to John for an overview of recent business highlights. John?

Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. Let’s turn to slide five. First,

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: I’ll provide an update on our TSA PreCheck program. We continue to make progress expanding our national network of enrollment centers, providing a convenient solution for travelers and gaining enrollment market share on this important national security program. The pace of our rollout has increased since our last earnings call in March, and 73 new locations have been added over the past nine weeks. We currently have two ninety one locations in key markets across The United States. As we said in the past, we do not expect a linear monthly pacing of opening new enrollment centers.

We will have phases when we open a larger number of locations, followed by quarters when we open fewer locations, and during which we, together with the TSA, will assess the operations of our enrollment centers before resuming a higher pace of rollouts. However, we continue to target achieving 500 enrollment locations sometime around the end of twenty twenty five. Next, I will provide a quick update on the program with DMDC. The program is ramping on schedule and we continue to expect it to be a major source of revenue growth for the company over the next several quarters. Finally, I will summarize the latest news on other business outcomes since our last earnings call.

Our Xacta business has achieved new orders with several customers, including In for and a US federal government customer, as well as renewals from the US sixteenth Air Force, the Office of Naval Intelligence, a New Zealand government agency, a leading cloud provider, and several other federal government customers. We also received a new order for cyber services from a Fortune 100 company in the technology sector. The Automated Message Handling System or AMHS business has achieved key renewals from the United States Marine Corps, the Defense Information Systems Agency and the U. S. Special Operations Command.

I’ll now turn the call back to Mark, who will discuss second quarter guidance. Mark?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Thanks, John. Let’s turn to slide six. For the second quarter, we expect revenue to grow 14% to 21% year over year to a range of $32,500,000 to $34,500,000 We forecast Security Solutions revenue to grow low 60% to low 70% year over year, primarily due to growth in DMDC and TSA PreCheck enrollments. We forecast Secure Networks revenue to contract low 70% to mid 60% year over year due to the completion of programs over the past several quarters. GAAP gross margin is expected to be approximately 32% to 33.5% and cash gross margin is expected to be approximately 38% to 39.5%, down from last year due to rapid growth of lower margin programs in security solutions and the completion of higher margin programs in secure networks.

Cash operating expenses, which adjust for capitalized software development costs, stock based compensation, restructuring costs and D and A, are forecast to be approximately $1,000,000 to $1,300,000 lower year over year, primarily due to cost reduction initiatives in 2024. We forecast an adjusted EBITDA loss of $2,100,000 to $600,000 Lastly, our full year outlook is unchanged. Revenue for the full year will be comprised of several key components. First, we expect our existing business excluding TSA PreCheck and the DMDC and DHS programs that we won in the first quarter of twenty twenty four to generate approximately $70,000,000 of revenue in 2025. Second, we estimate that DMDC and DHS programs could recognize approximately $50,000,000 to $75,000,000 of revenue.

Third, we expect TSA PreCheck enrollment revenue to ramp along with our enrollment centers during the year. And lastly, any new business wins during 2025 will have the potential to contribute additional revenue during the year. And with that, I’ll turn it back to John.

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: Thanks, Mark. Let’s turn to slide six. In summary, we’re pleased to over delivered on key financial metrics in the first quarter with 16% sequential revenue growth, positive adjusted EBITDA and positive cash flow. Additionally, we’re thrilled with the progress on the DMDC program. The program continues to ramp successfully and remains a key source of revenue growth in 2025.

We are excited to be able to deliver mission critical offerings to this important US government customer. We continue to make progress on the expansion of our TSA PreCheck enrollment network and have added a significant number of new locations since our last earnings call. For the second quarter, we’re forecasting 14% to 21% year over year revenue growth, primarily driven by substantial growth in security solutions, partially offset by contraction in secure networks. Finally, we expect year over year growth in revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and cash flow to accelerate in the second half of twenty twenty five. With that, we’re happy to take questions.

Operator, please open the line for Q and A. Thank you.

Zach Cummins, Analyst, B. Riley Securities: Thank you.

Conference Operator: Our first question comes from Zach Cummins with B. Riley Securities. You may proceed.

Zach Cummins, Analyst, B. Riley Securities: Hi, good morning, Mark and John. I appreciate giving me the opportunity to ask questions and congrats on the solid start to the year. Mark, I appreciate the reaffirmed outlook essentially. Just curious if there’s been any changes on the new business front, first part of the question there. And second part is, can you give us a better sense of what the margin profile for DMDC looks like as that continues to go through the early stages of the ramp right now?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yeah, hey Zach, good morning. So it’s Mark Bensley here. I will start on the DMDC margin profile and then I’ll turn it over to Mark Griffin regarding new business. So DMDC is a large program. It’s going to generate substantial revenue and revenue growth for us this year and then into ’26.

It’s also a complex program and there’s multiple revenue streams within that program and they have very different margin profiles. But on balance, on a blended basis, that program will be dilutive to overall margins. I’m not going to get into program specific margin details, but it’ll be dilutive to overall margins. And as that program ramps sequentially over the course of this year, it’s going to primarily be the lower margin revenue streams that will ramp. And so you will see margin contraction sequentially over the course of the year.

So revenues will ramp significantly from the first quarter to the second quarter. Margins will contract, and then operating expenses will be relatively flattish, maybe a little higher in the second half. And then year over year, you’re going to see, you know, overall revenue adjusted EBITDA and cash flow that year over year variance to improve from the first half to the second half. So let me pause there and see if that answers that part of the question.

Zach Cummins, Analyst, B. Riley Securities: Yeah, yeah, very helpful on that front. And just curious about any kind of incremental new business this year that maybe has flown into the model.

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Sure, I’ll turn it over to Mark Griffin.

Mark Griffin, Executive Vice President of Security Solutions, Telos Corporation: Hello, Zach. The business pipeline still remains over $4,000,000,000 with several hundred opportunities that we’re working on. The award dates for those opportunities still are scattered between this quarter and next quarter and end of the year, so any incremental growth that we see from awards this year will be single digit kind of opportunities, but the pipeline is still very robust and we’re still very pleased with how it’s filling out. So it’s equivalent to what it was last earnings call, just a different mix on some of the opportunities that we see both on the IA front, the IB front and secure network.

Zach Cummins, Analyst, B. Riley Securities: Got it. And just in terms of my last question is around TSA PreCheck. Obviously, pace of the roll rollout has been a little bit slower to start this year. So just curious on the performance of your existing footprint and the visibility that you have in terms of rolling out to that 500 target with the TSA here towards the end of the year.

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yeah, so pre check’s going to be a really important driver of our financials this year. We feel good about it, especially in terms of cash generation. I think you saw in the first quarter a very significant turnaround in cash flow. Overall for the full year, I think you’ll see cash flow step up significantly year over year. And in part, that’s due to performance on TSA PreCheck.

So we’re feeling good about its contribution to the economics for the year. Great.

Zach Cummins, Analyst, B. Riley Securities: Well, thanks for taking my questions. Really appreciate it and best of luck with the rest of the quarter.

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: Thank you, Zach. Thanks, Zach.

Conference Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Rudy Kessinger with D. A. Davidson. You may proceed.

Rudy Kessinger, Analyst, D.A. Davidson: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. And really following on Zach’s question, Mark, I know you don’t want to get into maybe specifics on the margin profile, but put it a little bit more bluntly than Zach. If I look at your Q2 midpoint of your guidance versus q one results, it’s negative 31% incremental cash gross margins, negative 59% incremental EBITDA margins. So I get I guess it you know, could you tell us the clients throughout the year and cash gross margins?

Like, where could they be by year end? It could they be low thirties, mid thirties? Like, where should we kinda plug those? And specifically on the DMDC revenues of 50 to 75,000,000, what would that revenue be if it was being recognized on a net basis instead of on a gross basis? Thank you.

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yeah, sure, Rudy. So first half to second half, if we talk cash gross margins, I’d say you’re going to see approximately now this is going to depend on mix. There are various things that can move this answer depending on mix. But I would say from first half to second half, you’ll probably see cash gross margin step down, call it roughly 600 basis points. We have some other higher margin revenue streams elsewhere in the portfolio that could come into the second half that will offset some of that dilution.

But as a base case, you know, think of it as around 600 basis points of sequential cash gross margin dilution from the first half to the second half. And that will be driven by two things. It’s the lower margin revenue streams in DMBC And then an accounting nuance that we’ve talked about in the past, which is how we’re recognizing some of our costs on TSA PreCheck. So we have some costs that from a GAAP basis is ramping through cost of sales and TSA PreCheck, but there’s not a corresponding increase in cash expense, actually cash outflow expense. So that’s one of the reasons why you’ll see cash flow meaningfully outperform what you would expect relative to adjusted EBITDA.

Rudy Kessinger, Analyst, D.A. Davidson: That’s helpful. Thank you.

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: Yep.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Thank you.

Conference Operator: Our next question comes from Nehal Chokshi with Northland Capital Markets. You may proceed.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Yes. Thank you. Nice results and I think positive guidance from my perspective here. So you had positive free cash flow this quarter, that’s great. Sounds like that’s largely being driven by TSA PreCheck.

And then trying to bridge to your commentary that you expect year over year growth in cash flow in the second half of twenty twenty five. Does that mean that 02/25 free cash flow will be negative?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yeah, Najal, so I’m not guiding 2Q free cash flow simply because it’s very much going to be driven by working capital at the end of 2Q. So I can tell you the first two months of the quarter I expect to be positive, slightly positive. The third month of the quarter, it’s really going to come down to the mundane details of working capital collections versus payments in the last kind of one to two weeks of June versus the one to two weeks of July. And that could that that delta could really push working capital, you know, positive or negative. And then it’ll just reverse in July.

So but that being said, you know, second quarter of last year, we burned $11,000,000 of free cash flow. Right? That I think, you know, relative to last year, we’re gonna be in a very different place this year. Just like we saw in the first quarter. And so given that the That’s

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: true throughout the year.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Yeah. Okay. You mean meaning the first two months versus the third month of the quarter in terms of free cash flow generating characteristics? Is that what you’re saying that’s true?

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: No. What we’re saying is that we expect to be, from a year over year point of view, we expect to be way better than last year.

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yep. On free cash flow.

Rudy Kessinger, Analyst, D.A. Davidson: Got it.

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: On a free cash flow

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: basis. Understood. And, let’s see. Free cash flow for calendar twenty four was negative $40,000,000 Given where you were for 1Q twenty five and where things seem to be trajecting, what is your expectations for the full year? Will it actually be positive?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yeah. So Rahul, I’m not guiding full year cash flow. But one of the things that I walked through on the last call is that we expect free cash flow to outperform adjusted EBITDA in part due to some favorable working capital dynamics, as well as the pretty significant chunk of expense recognition running through cost of sales on pre check that will not have a corresponding cash outflow.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Okay. Alright. Great. And then just on the quarter here, you note that outperformance comes from both security solutions and security networks secure networks. From a dollar basis, which one was the bigger outperformer?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Solutions.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Security solutions. And would that primarily have been driven by TSA PreCheck then?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: I’d say both of the growth programs. So DMV DM PreCheck.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Okay. And are you seeing any rollover in renewal activity given that we’re coming to the that we are past the five year COVID anniversary here?

Mark Benza, Executive Vice President and CFO, Telos Corporation: Yeah, the renewal market will contract overall market will contract pretty meaningfully this year. And we did see that in the first quarter as expected.

Nehal Chokshi, Analyst, Northland Capital Markets: Okay, great. Fantastic results given that dynamic.

Rudy Kessinger, Analyst, D.A. Davidson: Thank you.

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: Thank you.

Conference Operator: Thank you. This will conclude today’s question and answer session. I will now turn the call back to John Wood for any closing remarks.

John Wood, Chairman and CEO, Telos Corporation: Well, first of all, I just wanna thank our shareholders for, you know, your ongoing support. And, you know, we continue to make progress in the first quarter. We executed our plan, demonstrated year over year growth in key financial metrics, and we look forward to continuing the trend of year over year growth throughout 2025. You know, we have very robust and recession resistant markets and well funded customers and a decades long track record of serving the world’s most security conscious organizations. So from our perspective, TELUS has a very strong foundation for the future.

So thank you very much for participating.

Conference Operator: Thank you. This concludes the conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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